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How to calculate the cost of an employee?

zoe posted on 05/11/2009 at 09:13
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I'm trying to work out the cost to company of an employee, I can ask my accountant but I don't want to keep bothering him with all my calculatations

Is there no simple way of working this out? As the charges change according to the salary it's making it very difficult to get a real estimation, if anyone knows of an online tool I can use I'd be very grateful!

Thanks
eurokiné replied on 05/11/2009 at 09:21
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As far as employing someone under the cheque emploi service scheme goes it would seem that you can expect to pay around two thirds if the salary in social charges , at least when I pay my cleaning lady (on frais reel) 144€, I pay 98€ or there abouts to urssaf
Hope this helps your calculations, tho I cant guarentee it's the same sums for a CDD or CDI contracted emplyee
ouch that hurt ! replied on 05/11/2009 at 10:28
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Globally, it works out about double, I am happy to be told otherwise if i'm wrong, but in our company for each employee, we pay the same in charges
ChristopherL replied on 05/11/2009 at 14:08
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This simple question touches upon a complicated area that can be quite tricky to calculate exactly and furthermore, unless your accountant is actually performing the service of bulletin de paie, he is unlikely to know exactly all the rates and ceilings unless you give him an exact amount and an exact status of the employee (e.g. cadre, non-cadre).

To give you a simple rule of thumb for an average salary (i.e. more than the SMIC but not a lot more thant Tranche A of the S.S.), then you can work it out like this;

GROSS= 100

NETT = 78

COTISATION PATRONALE = approx. 45-50% i.e. between 45 and 50

so the cost to the company is about 45-50% of the Brut and the cost to the employee is about 22% of the brut

Round it all up into a working example with realistic amounts;

  • Notional monthly wage 2500 €
  • Employee will get 1950 € nett upon which he pays Impots sur le Revenu
  • Employer will pay 2500 brut + 1125 cotisations patronales for a total expense of 3625 €

ALL of the 3625 is tax deductible for the company and then any profit left to be distributed to the owner(s) either through Impots sur le Revenu (similar as per an employee) or through Dividends (15%-33.3% taxation according to amount)

I disagree with comments that it costs the double. If however the company owner is also the employed person then in that case there is a tendency to count their company contribution along with their personal and then to reason from the nett rather than brut but that is a little disingenuous. In the example above, you could for argument's sakes say that the 3625€ that the company had to pay also had to be earned by the employee and therefore, having only earned received 1950 you see a factor of almost 2 - however as said, that is a disingenuous calculation

The company could of course always encumber itself with ADDITIONAL charges like mutuelle, retraite complémentaire, etc. but they are not legally required.

zoe replied on 05/11/2009 at 14:12
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Thanks everyone, that's really helpful. I'm amazed that there's no online tool where you type in the gross salary and click OK to see the employer charges.

There is the Fillon reduction to be taken into account and so I guess worse case scenario it's going to be 50%

Thanks for your help, and if anyone comes across the tool I'm dreaming of please let me know ;o)
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